"Luxury Car" - The Line Keeps Moving

"davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction) 02/16/2018 at 11:24 • Filed to: None

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The base Toyota Corolla comes with LED headlights, a big touchscreen audio system with Bluetooth, a backup camera, and “Toyota Safety Sense™ P (TSS-P) — Pre-Collision System with Pedestrian Detection (PCS w/PD), Lane Departure Alert with Steering Assist (LDA w/SA), Automatic High Beams (AHB), Dynamic Radar Cruise Control (DRCC).”

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 11:29

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I don’t know about whatever you posted, but that Oppulence commercial is one of the best that was ever shown.

Nothing > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 11:30

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I’ve been test driving vehicles lately, and yeah, things that were high end in the mid-aughts are now normal features on my not luxury truck. The resolution on older screens is laughable, too.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 02/16/2018 at 11:30

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Haha! Yes.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Nothing 02/16/2018 at 11:31

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They’re all luxury cars!

Except, like, the Versa. And even it has a rear-view camera (mandated) and Bluetooth.

Textured Soy Protein > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 11:32

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Tech gimmicks inevitably become cheaper and easier to mass produce which makes them more common in cheaper cars.

Even with all those features you mentioned, the Corolla is still a pile of crap, even compared to other cars in its segment. It’s slow, doesn’t handle, it’s loud, and the interior is plasticky as hell.

Driven back to back with something like a Civic, 3, etc the difference is striking .

Bourbon&JellyBeans > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 11:32

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That’s the progress of the automobile for ya. In 1955, the Ford Thunderbird was one of the most luxurious American cars on the market because it featured optional - get ready - power windows and seats.

His Stigness > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 11:33

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Yeah... I don’t think Patrick knows what a real luxury car is...

Nothing > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 11:34

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Yep! Now, get into my“luxury Mustang”, no A/C, no tach, no clock, no power windows, no power locks, no power anything! At least my headlights hide behind clever little doors and those sequential tail lights sure are cool.

Chariotoflove > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 11:39

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I think the differentiating line now is not features so much as materials. The interior of an optioned Corolla should still be much less luxurious that a base “luxury” car.

user314 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 02/16/2018 at 11:39

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And I still want my miniature giraffe, dammit.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > His Stigness 02/16/2018 at 11:39

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Right, clearly a luxury car these days has gobs of power, a supple ride, fine materials, a quiet cabin,  and all the tech stuff, but it is incredible how much of the tech is now available on what were considered econoboxes.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Bourbon&JellyBeans 02/16/2018 at 11:39

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Opulence!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Textured Soy Protein 02/16/2018 at 11:40

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I don’t disagree with you, but crazy how much of this stuff comes standard now.

LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 11:42

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I just wish the memory feature on the power seats would show up in down-market cars. I really don’t understand why this hasn’t happened yet, when power everything and heated seats and leather, etc. are there.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 11:43

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They filmed that in Donald Trump’s condo in Trump Tower.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Chariotoflove 02/16/2018 at 11:47

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Yeah, clearly. Luxury is power + ride + quiet + materials + tech.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Nothing 02/16/2018 at 11:48

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Haha!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 02/16/2018 at 11:49

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I mean, that’s clearly true, right?

Chariotoflove > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 11:50

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That’s why I am enjoying my K900 so much more than I would a GT trim Mazda 6, even though the 6 is a good car.

E90M3 > Chariotoflove 02/16/2018 at 11:51

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I agree, the corolla might have more tech than my M3, but my M3 is more luxurious. The materials are a on a completely different level.

Chariotoflove > E90M3 02/16/2018 at 11:53

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I’ve never ridden in an M3. Are the materials a cut above the base 3 series, or are they the same?

E90M3 > Chariotoflove 02/16/2018 at 11:56

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Somewhat. The leather is a better quality, it does share some parts with the 3.

Dasupersprint - base trim is enough > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 11:57

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Does it still have a 4 speed auto?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Dasupersprint - base trim is enough 02/16/2018 at 11:59

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CVT

luxury =/= bbbbbzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Textured Soy Protein 02/16/2018 at 12:00

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I have explained before (and people are too stupid to understand) that adding electronic features is really cheap. Sure, software development teams aren’t cheap, but the cost of their output is fixed across the model run or even product range. I develop a web interface for controlling one product and it can be implemented across the range of similar products (provided they needed enough computing power to run a basic web server) for pocket change per unit. In many cases the software is reducing the cost/complexity of the assemblies as well, which often makes implementing the hardware/software a net gain in profits.

I mean, look at modern car engines. The total number of parts is way down since we started having computers control them. Today, they’re ridiculously simple and totally dependent on a control computer.

Chariotoflove > E90M3 02/16/2018 at 12:02

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I’ve ridden in older 3 series and thought that the interior is quality, but not more luxurious than my Sedona (which I consider to be high quality, but still not in the luxury class). I have not been in current additions of the 3, however, and I’d like to see how much it’s improved. I think the biggest advances in car interiors over time have come from the advances in polymers and the affordability to use them.

fintail > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 12:09

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Especially funny as it existed in actual luxury cars 20+ years ago.

CalzoneGolem > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 12:09

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Isn’t that how it works? I think there was a top gear about this phenomenon with the S Class.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 12:10

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It’s all about differentiation and probably reducing wiring/switches a bit. The fact is that it’s easy to implement if you have position feedback on the seat assemblies (but they probably don’t). Most power seats probably just have either switches, an amperage cutoff, or monitor back emf to sense the end of travel.

Phyrxes once again has a wagon! > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 12:18

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But does it have rain sensing wipers like my 05 V70?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Phyrxes once again has a wagon! 02/16/2018 at 12:30

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No!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > CalzoneGolem 02/16/2018 at 12:31

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Pretty much.

Phyrxes once again has a wagon! > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 12:41

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Not a surprise, the avoidance tech is primarily what is coming downmarket other “luxury” toys are not.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Phyrxes once again has a wagon! 02/16/2018 at 12:47

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Rear-view cameras have been mandated - I wonder how much longer it will be for auto-braking systems to be as well.

pip bip - choose Corrour > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 17:49

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trickle down DOES work

The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/16/2018 at 18:05

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What happened to the luxury of simplicity?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > pip bip - choose Corrour 02/17/2018 at 16:37

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Ha!